...sau: Postmodernistii si tirania lor palpabila impotriva tiraniilor potentiale (oniric-fabulativ-potentiale)
Din una in alta am simtit nevoia sa ma pun la punct putin (deci mai spre punct, nu chiar la punct) cu ce e aia postmodernismul. Yeah, in gandire nu in alte zone, pentru ca acolo imi place mie sa ma joc.
Si mi'am zis ca Britannica ar fi o sursa credibila. (Asa ca daca ei au gresit si eu voi fi gresit.) Lene, prima iesita in cale.
So, am aflat ca postmodernistii sunt mostly niste unii care nu aduc un suflu nou ci se opun iluministilor. Chestie care pana la un punct nu m'ar deranja, am si eu cateva chestii impotriva alora. Si cateva impotriva mult laudatilor renascentisti - btw. Dar doar cateva.
Tipii (si tipele) cu postmodernismul insa se vede ca sunt hotarati sa distruga the fabric of the society cu o agresivitate la care multi fanatici religiosi ar privi cu un amestec de admiratie si groaza.
Mai jos e lista de idei iluministe (cele mai importante) prezentata de Britannica si obiectiile postmodernistilor. La care am pus obiectiile mele la obiectiile lor. Asa mi s'a parut amuzant.
1.
There is an objective natural reality, a reality whose existence and properties
are logically independent of human beings—of their minds, their societies,
their social practices, or their investigative techniques. Postmodernists
dismiss this idea as a kind of naive realism. Such reality as there is,
according to postmodernists, is a conceptual construct, an artifact of
scientific practice and language. This point also applies to the
investigation of past events by historians and to the description of social
institutions, structures, or practices by social scientists.
Aici se vede foarte clar nivelul de
egocentrism al postmodernistilor. Ei considera ca fara domniile lor (se autoconsidera pasamite oameni-zei)
nu exista natura, asa ca plantele si animalele le sunt subordonate ca existenta(!).
Apoi
ei mai neaga chiar insasi posibilitatea de a sti ceva despre om, societate…!
Conform mancatorilor de fluturi cunoasterea nu exista pentru ca nici nu e posibila,
drept care incultul este Om intre oameni, el nefiind pangarit de idei care nu
pot fi altfel decat false. Bun asa!
2.
The descriptive and explanatory statements of scientists and historians can, in
principle, be objectively true or false. The postmodern denial of this
viewpoint—which follows from the rejection of an objective natural reality—is
sometimes expressed by saying that there is no such thing as Truth.
Langa
incult apare si imbecilul (chiar si medical vorbind) sus in ierarhia umana,
deoarece neexistand adevar imbecilul de fapt rosteste lucruri corecte, coerente
– desi atributele corect, coerent nu mai au fundament (ontologic) in gandirea
postmodernista.
Si aici ajungem la un paradox delicios: postmodernistii spun ca toti ceilalti
abereaza intrucat nu exista cunoastere si nu exista adevar (deci nu exista corect
ori coerent) dar… ceea ce spun ei este adevarat(!!), ceea ce spun ei este correct(!!)
(bine, la ultima s’au scos, nefiind nevoie ca sa existe coerenta nu ii poti acuza
ca ei sunt incoerenti).
Ceea ce
ii face pe postmodernisti sa iasa din gandire si sa intre in zona unei religii ajunse
in epoca fanatica: “Nu exista adevar decat atunci cand vorbim noi!”. Btw,
religiile mari nici macar nu si’au permis sa anuleze conceptul de adevar ci
doar sa sustina ca exclusiv al lor e ala ok, ceea ce ii plaseaza pe zgubiliticii
astia intr’o zona a violentei in idei dincolo de marile fanatisme religioase
cunoscute pana acum de omenire.
3.
Through the use of reason and logic, and with the more specialized tools
provided by science and technology, human beings are likely to change
themselves and their societies for the better. It is reasonable to expect that
future societies will be more humane, more just, more enlightened, and more
prosperous than they are now. Postmodernists deny this Enlightenment faith in
science and technology as instruments of human progress. Indeed, many
postmodernists hold that the misguided (or unguided) pursuit of scientific and
technological knowledge led to the development of technologies for killing on a
massive scale in World War II. Some go so far as to say that science and
technology—and even reason and logic—are inherently destructive and oppressive,
because they have been used by evil people, especially during the 20th century,
to destroy and oppress others.
Well,
aici avem un pic de samanta, dar evident exacerbata spre absurd intr’o spirala
fanatica.
Pentru ca
intr’adevar se vede deja cu ochiul liber ca evolutia tehnologica nu este
obligatoriu corelata cu evolutia calitatilor umane. Educatia in stiinte care se
primeste de generatii nu acopera nevoia unei alte educatii care sa dezvolte
calitati umane in indivizi. Programa scolara (cel putin cea occidentala) formeaza
individul pentru a putea fi competent in diverse profesii, nu si pentru a fi
uman in cadrul unei societati.
Dar pornind
de aici sa ajungi sa spui ca stiinta, tehnologia, ratiunea si logica sunt
inerent distructive si opresive... probabil ai facut facultatea la Balaceanca.
Pacient fiind.
4.
Reason and logic are universally valid—i.e., their laws are the same for, or
apply equally to, any thinker and any domain of knowledge. For postmodernists,
reason and logic too are merely conceptual constructs and are therefore valid
only within the established intellectual traditions in which they are used.
Ratiunea
si logica – nu exista, sunt doar conceptuale. Well, aici e doar o mica rafuiala cu decorurile, cu sistemul de referinta. Intrucat
afirmatiile acestor stimabili si stimabile nu erau rationale si
nici logice au ales sa doboare de la radacina orice forma de demonstrare a nivelului
de aberatie in care se scalda. Au distrus metrul ca sa nu poata fi masurati.
Asa ca nu e vorba de alt adevar (care nu exista decat cand vorbesc ei)
dat lumii ci doar de o masura de protectie pentru a nu fi anihilati – prin logica
si ratiune.
5.
There is such a thing as human nature; it consists of faculties, aptitudes, or
dispositions that are in some sense present in human beings at birth rather
than learned or instilled through social forces. Postmodernists insist that
all, or nearly all, aspects of human psychology are completely socially
determined.
Da, isi
permit sa inventeze adevaruri(le lor) pe banda rulanta dupa ce postuleaza ca
stiinta si metodele stiintifice sunt false. Si ca logica si ratiunea nu exista –
asa ca ei nici nu trebuie sa demonstreze ceea ce afirma. Drept care se simt contrazisi
prin simple experimente care au aratat ca indivizii evolueaza diferit in
conditii sociale aproape identice, de imensul numar de exemple unde indivizi
evolueaza puternic diferit in conditii sociale similare.
6.
Language refers to and represents a reality outside itself. According to
postmodernists, language is not such a “mirror of nature,” as the American
pragmatist philosopher Richard Rorty characterized the Enlightenment view.
Inspired by the work of the Swiss linguist Ferdinand de Saussure,
postmodernists claim that language is semantically self-contained, or
self-referential: the meaning of a word is not a static thing in the world or
even an idea in the mind but rather a range of contrasts and differences with
the meanings of other words. Because meanings are in this sense functions of other
meanings—which themselves are functions of other meanings, and so on—they are
never fully “present” to the speaker or hearer but are endlessly “deferred.”
Self-reference characterizes not only natural languages but also the more
specialized “discourses” of particular communities or traditions; such
discourses are embedded in social practices and reflect the conceptual schemes
and moral and intellectual values of the community or tradition in which they
are used. The postmodern view of language and discourse is due largely to the
French philosopher and literary theorist Jacques Derrida (1930–2004), the
originator and leading practitioner of deconstruction.
Well,
aici este iar o tzara de adevar, insa se face o substitutie intre un defect, o
lacuna a limbajului si functia fundamentala a limbajului – cea de transmitere
de informatii de la un individ la altul.
Da, exista o coloratura - emotionala si culturala - subiectiva a multor termeni ai limbajului,
lucru care face ca deseori sa apara probleme de comunicare, numai ca acest lucru
este ceva ce trebuie sa invatam sa depasim pentru a comunica mai bine cu
ceilalti...!
Nu sa
mergem in cealalta directie, sa exacerbam subiectivismul in limbaj – pentru ca
la capatul acestui drum fiecare vorbeste propria limba si nimeni nu se mai intelege
cu nimeni. WTF?! Ce au tras astia pe nas e o intrebare, dar a doua - si aia cu
raspuns mai trist - este cum de asemenea gogomanii au fost ridicate ca subiecte valide
academic la nivel international. Pentru ca ca raspunsul la aceasta intrebare
arata spre calitatea “filtrelor calitative” in societatea academica – care pretinde
ca selecteaza calitate in baza unor teste cantitative (de cantitate a memoriei,
de cantitate a efortului).
7.
Human beings can acquire knowledge about natural reality, and this knowledge
can be justified ultimately on the basis of evidence or principles that are, or
can be, known immediately, intuitively, or otherwise with certainty.
Postmodernists reject philosophical foundationalism—the attempt, perhaps best
exemplified by the 17th-century French philosopher René Descartes’s dictum
cogito, ergo sum (“I think, therefore I am”), to identify a foundation of
certainty on which to build the edifice of empirical (including scientific)
knowledge.
Aici Britannica
se pare ca a uitat sa puna contraideea postmodernistilor, doar se mentioneaza
ca zgubiliticii sunt complet triggered de ideea de acumulare de cunostinte pe
baza de evidente.
8. It
is possible, at least in principle, to construct general theories that explain
many aspects of the natural or social world within a given domain of
knowledge—e.g., a general theory of human history, such as dialectical
materialism. Furthermore, it should be a goal of scientific and historical
research to construct such theories, even if they are never perfectly
attainable in practice. Postmodernists dismiss this notion as a pipe dream and
indeed as symptomatic of an unhealthy tendency within Enlightenment discourses
to adopt “totalizing” systems of thought (as the French philosopher Emmanuel
Lévinas called them) or grand “metanarratives” of human biological, historical,
and social development (as the French philosopher Jean-François Lyotard
claimed). These theories are pernicious not merely because they are false but because
they effectively impose conformity on other perspectives or discourses, thereby
oppressing, marginalizing, or silencing them. Derrida himself equated the
theoretical tendency toward totality with totalitarianism.
Si ultimul
punct vorbeste tot despre razboirea postmodernistilor cu cunoasterea. Dom’le nu
ai voie sa incerci sa afli(!!), sa cauti daca(!) exista trasaturi generale pentru ceva-orice.
Fizica, corpuri ceresti, plante, om, animale, viu, neviu... well, trebuie sa ma
corectez, e vorba doar despre om, pentru ca ne amintim ca postmodernistii ne’au
invatat un adevar (da, chestii inexistente conform lor - invatarea si adevarul): celelalte
nu exista(!) decat in relatie cu omul, deci subsumate lui.
De
exemplu nu ai voie sa spui ca oamenii au nevoie de oxigen pentru a trai pentru
ca asta ii va opresa, marginaliza si reduce la tacere pe toti oamenii care nu
au nevoie de oxigen pentru a trai!
Nu este o tiranie delicioasa interzicerea exercitarii logicii, ratiunii,
acumularii de cunostinte?!
Impusa de
catre unii care sustin ca lupta in principal impotriva tiraniei si pentru
acceptarea cat mai larga a tuturor indivizilor, a tuturor formelor de comportament
(...atata vreme cat nu sunt continute urme de logica, ratiune, acumulare
de cunostinte, pentru ca ei au soc - emotional - anafilactic de la asa ceva)?!
Dar este
o tiranie acceptata social pentru ca este nu numai acceptabila dar si
favorizanta celor multi care au lipsuri dureroase in zona inteligentei si / ori culturii.
(si pentru ca am pus in titlu ca ar fi o tiranie palpabila anunt ca efecte ale pretentiilor postmodernistilor au intrat deja in zona juridica, dupa ce fac furori de ani de zile in facultatile de peste Prut. si Rusia si vreo doua mari. adica in Canada. si USA)
si iaca articolul in discutie: https://www.britannica.com/topic/postmodernism-philosophy